Perhaps there should be some clarity on a few things, and perhaps such clarity could/should come from the board of selectmen. Massachusetts General Law, chapter 39, section 16 states how things are suppose to work. It states that Towns may by by-law provide for election or appointment of a finance/advisory committee; as in towns have a choice of which way to go on that.
The law also states that the finance committee/advisory shall submit a budget unless there is a town by-law for selectmen to do it. Templeton has two separate by-laws contradicting each. Templeton advisory committee went to Town Administrator with the question and asked that Town Counsel be sent the question for some kind of clarity. That was done and the answers were it could be done by agreement between the two committees in one way or another, then fix the by-law issue or go to Town Meeting and have it decided there. I will dig up the response from legal counsel to post it here.
Thing is, if there is a legal right for Advisory to submit a budget and selectmen control the warrant, how would the budget presentation get on the warrant without a legal - in court fight? Go to your state senate or representative and suddenly "that is a local issue' go to the Department of Revenue and "that is a local issue" so short of spending money on lawyers, there should be a meeting of selectmen and advisory and come to agreement and then fix the damn by-laws.
Templeton General Town by-laws state:
Article III - Town Officers;
Section 4. “It shall be duty of the Town Administrator in conjunction with the BOS to
consider expenditures and develop a budget for the ensuing fiscal year of the
several boards, officers and committees of the town, as prepared by them in
such form and detail as prescribed by the Town Administrator.”
Passed 5-16-13, Approved by A/G 8-22-13. Amended 5-19-14, Approved by
A/G 7-2-14
Article IV - Advisory Committee;
Section 4. It shall be the duty of the Advisory Committee annually to consider the
expenditures in previous years and the estimated requirements for the ensuing
year of the several boards, officers and committees of the town, as prepared
by them in such form and detail as may be prescribed by said committee. The
said committee shall add to such statement of expenditures and estimates
another column, giving the amounts which in its opinion should be
appropriated for the ensuing year, and shall further add thereto such
explanations and suggestions relating to the proposed appropriations as it may
deem expedient, and report thereon as provided in section five of Article II.
Sections 1-4, 5, 6 Passed 3-5-51,
Section 4a Passed 3-9-57, Amended 3-10-73, Approved by A/G 7-27-73,
Amended 5-16-13, Approved by A/G 8-22-13
Sections 1 & 2 Amended 5-11-11, Approved by A/G 5-17-11
It is my personal belief that this conflicting item (s) were not addressed because of the then board of selectmen (s) position of "we are the superior board and we are elected and you are just appointed.) and you may ask selectmen Brooks about that. Again, that is my personal belief as a resident.
Important Note: Talked about at a meeting of board of selectmen, proposed amendment to Town general by-laws - clarify the role in which Advisory Committee can comment on warrant.
It’s my personal belief that the reason nothing gets done is that some people in this town think they are Anna Maria Riezinger.
ReplyDeleteJeff, You want this town to follow MGL and Town Bylaws. Are you crazy we have never done that. If we followed them we would not have as much problems and then there would not be as much to talk about. LOL
ReplyDeleteSeems to me that some citizens are more concerned about flouride, electrical meters creating dirty energy and Bilderburg conspiracies than promoting and spear heading ideas as discribed by Jeff above to just get it resolved and move on to the work of the town.
ReplyDeleteAnd some residents are concerned with running for Selectman to help jam a $50 million elementary school through for a town that needs a smaller, less expensive, solution.
ReplyDeleteThat, and their popularity with their peeps. No longer interested in town issues, school is a done deal, doesn't even bother going to meetings. She helped make Town finances as screwed up as her own.
May I inquire .. your finance board is appointed if vacancy’s exist in the year correct but are approved by the Town Moderator at town meeting . The town Moderator is elected by townspeople. * please correct me as I’m no expert here either in municipal govt.
ReplyDeleteI’m not a fan of having the town moderator ( I don’t think that’s a job that has been filled in the past with people who have been astute ) to then be potentially responsible to create a budget as I think you are proposing.
I believe that the selectman should prepare and appropriate ( hope I have that right ) the money to be voted on by the town.
In fact looking at other towns finance depts I don’t see that a finance / adv board produces a budget. if they do please provide that town I would like to see how that’s working or not for them.
Anom 11:09 am- you want someone else to do your lookup for you when you can do it yourself. it sounds like you are a town employee or part of the management of this town. just saying
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ReplyDeleteAnon 11:46am. You seem to be the kind of person I hope dose not belong to any town dept in any capacity.
DeleteI notice others here post questions like “mike “ who can’t figure out why his property tax bill went up - why did he not ask his bank or just look it up as you say ? Is “ mike “ a town employee ?
Does someone need their dose? Or maybe they just a moment to re-read their written words and edit?
DeleteThanks Anna Maria Riezinger.
DeleteJudge Riezinger, maybe you can go correct “ mike “ now ?
DeleteNo worries Pretty Standard, if you want to get involved I commend you but be prepared for that and other asinine posts. Here is the link to the by laws ( town website ) - after looking I see nothing that disputes what I asserted - again if I’m wrong may someone can contribute. http://www.templeton1.org/sites/templetonma/files/file/file/by-law_book_2015-complete_w_cover-table_of_contents.pdf
ReplyDeletePretty standard your a dope
ReplyDelete* you’re. - You’re welcome
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ReplyDeleteI hope everyone has a good weekend and reads up on issues and attends or watches upcoming meetings - cheers
ReplyDeleteAnon.10:52 Please give these comments a rest. People have a right to believe what they want. What you refer to has nothing to do with this blog. This is a free country, so if you do not like what some blog believes, don't read it. Simple as that ! Thank you. Bev.
ReplyDeleteBev - the Left is intolerant of ideas that differ from the party line. The standard attack is to shout down diversity of thought.
ReplyDelete^ are you Ann Coulter ?
DeleteAnon 10:52 here : just an observation Bev on the seemingly important issues of some and the political and social pressure exerted along with I would imagine political capital of doing so.
ReplyDeleteSide note * I don’t think we should be drinking flouride along with all the rest of the chemicals that unfortunately are in drinking water for way to many.