Wednesday, September 6, 2017

How they do it else where.

Barnstable, MA DPW;

When Juno clobbered the Cape in 2015, many of the department’s vehicles became disabled in the heavy snow. The snowfighters, which are often used to clear airport runways, were bought used, with few miles, for about $70,000, about one-third the cost of new vehicles. The department also has moved away from using sand to treat the roads and are using salt and a salt and chemical mixture instead, according to Michael Perry, the highway supervisor.
For every $10 spent on sand, it costs about $100 to clean it up, Perry said, adding that it often clogs the drainage systems and is overall less efficient.
One of their best plow trucks is a 1990's vintage Oshkosh truck, bought used.
One of the best places to save taxpayer dollars is by watching the state surplus program, where towns and cities can often get state equipment peanuts. For example, the state gets rid of perfectly good sanders, made of stainless steel. Some times they may have damage such as a missing or bent chute or some carbon steel parts may need replacement. When you consider a new stainless steel sander can cost between 15 and 20 thousand and you can repair or replace the carbon steel parts for a few thousand dollars, which one make more sense, as in dollars and cents. I have tried for a long time to get Templeton highway to look into that but to no avail. The above shows one more town that gets it, sand is not really cheaper to use. 

35 comments:

  1. Anonymous7:56 AM

    But "What are the boys going to do in April, May, June and July" without the 6 vehicle/all hands shitshow that is Bud Chase street sweeping?

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  2. Anonymous1:24 PM

    where is stupid Dave reply on this? I hope he is working. Oh no he did not stand up for Kelli husband in the Highway dept. I hear he said he was being picked on by Dave.

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  3. It appears that many communities are moving away from using sand

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  4. Towns and cities can often get state "equipment peanuts".
    Another post on his anonos "blig"
    Another thing to laugh at over and over again and again.
    jeffy has a new method to snowfighting with peanuts?
    More cow pie not worth the flies one could say.
    If jeff knew the or wrote the whole truth here it would be clearer why Templeton does it the way we do.
    Hard to wrap the little heads here around the facts.
    I'll try harder this time.
    Have your napkins ready Anonos fools.
    1- storage or cost to build it.
    2-Tanks and computerized equipment needed we don't now have or have the money to spend on it.
    3- so what we need is more different equipment(great plan there jefie poo)
    4- cost to environment and other factors unknown from chemicals jeff won't share here or he has no clues of. Hows that well water in 10 years folks,trees,lawns.
    5-many communities after last years cost are looking for ways to pay for the more expensive methods expressed here. Record winter costs hit budgets harder.
    6-like other lackluster posts here by the Anonos leader and spokesperson for the Advisory council/committee/board/ which ever it is this week. He leaves out the real figures and time needed to deal with the fantasies he thinks about.
    No plan to change what we do or no idea how to plan a change for us to do.
    No Advise here given and as it started out no facts just ridicule of what this town has done for years and done well.
    1:24 pm post moron can you find anything correct in your little world.
    He didn't like the work so why stay.At least he tried.
    He stood up and has a name not like your TYPE of anonos drone.
    Anonos 1:24 has a tail and it's hidden like his name.
    BONELESS fool COWARD

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  5. Anonymous4:34 PM

    Your every post marks you illiterate, Dave.

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  6. It seems most of the "chemicals" used in the process are agro products such as beet juice.

    Dave issues are worth consideration, but mean little unless we know the exact costs of using sand in comparison. Buying or converting equipment definitely costs money, but over time its usually people costs that are more expensive.

    Dave could be right, Jeff could be right, but until we cost it out neither one can say with total confidence.

    Dave, what happens to all the material you guys sweep up every year?

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  7. We use it to cap the landfill at the TMWWTP
    So add in the cost to purchase the material to do that also.
    Don't forget we pay nothing to dump the toxic waste there, where as the others figure the cost to dispose it in the cost analysis they use.
    No dump or treatment means a cost to dispose it.
    A434 save a sentence for the meeting.
    I see it's your limit lately,that's no surprise!
    LMAO
    Seriously
    To funny
    blig!!!

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  8. Anonymous7:21 PM

    Templeton's landfill hasn't been used for many years. Why would it still be in the process of being capped? Where is "capping landfill" listed as an expense in the health dept. budget?

    More bullshit answers from the self-appointed spokesperson of Templeton.

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  9. Anonymous8:55 PM

    I hope you are wrong about the street sweepings. The former dump is sitting on a huge aquifer. I'm shocked that dumping contaminated crud is permitted.

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  10. Anonymous8:56 PM

    i agree on one thing dave made is salt sucks ..i know sand cost more buy what price do you put on the environment . look at rt2 all the dead trees from all the salt !!

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  11. Anonymous8:58 PM

    Is he saying the Waste water treatment plant sludge landfill at the sewer department?

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  12. Not sure how well that fits with daily cover, but hey, you do separate out the urban areas right Davey?

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  13. http://www.mass.gov/eea/docs/dep/recycle/laws/stsweep.pdf

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  14. TMWWTP is where the stuff between your ANONOS ears goes when the toilet gets flushed.
    Bob you must mean the sand with the needles we find in it!
    So have jefie point to the tree removal money for the tree daths we will be doing and transfer from the AC bad advise account to the tree/salt account and then ask for a over ride to pay for it. Like all jefie facts the good is written and the bad is hidden,again and again over and over.
    Bob call the state and see where they dump the street sweeping they do.
    But why would they still have to sweep, So even if salt only is used there still needs to be a sweeper and street sweepings?
    I guess that fact has been deleted for the public information here.
    Facts are facts and when you read it here there's always more your "not" told about.
    like this fake blig thing jefie tries to do.
    Cut N paste like 1st grade all over again and again.


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    1. Anonymous2:47 PM

      posting on social media at 9:53am on a work day? Is this what we pay you for? Pay attention, you don't want to run ANOTHER stop sign.

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  15. Anonymous12:33 PM

    How much is a "tree dath"?

    Taking a break from bullshit and bullying?

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  16. WoW everyone clap clap clap for the fool Anon who have proven something for a CHANGE!
    It "can" tell time Now that's amazing X 2
    Tells time and graduated to a two sentence posted comment.
    But still
    LMAO
    To funny
    Seriously
    Get something to print your getting staler by the minute,if that's even possible.

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  17. Anonymous4:38 PM

    Where is funny, Dave?

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  18. A247 lacks a thought process that works.
    Call and complain see where it gets you.
    Want the number 9789398666- Don't forget the caller id thing so you can hide.
    HE HE HE
    LMAO
    seriously
    2 funny
    better?
    again
    2 funny

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  19. Anonymous8:32 PM

    Dave ran a stop sign?

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  20. Was that you i saw mow i know who you are.
    Was i driving?
    I should be tared and feathered for something like that.
    I deny it ever happened.
    I have a witness, make that two who will testify on my behalf,both are cops!!!
    LMAO
    3 funny
    seriously
    even better

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  21. Anonos has a lack of ability to remember his own name.
    You wouldn't know what a lug wrench was if you had it in your other hand.
    I forgot more then you could ever comprehend,ever.
    seriously i hope you have AAA
    2 funny
    oshkosh!!!
    He lacks any thought process.
    Take one to know.
    I like the new name.
    Original

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  22. Anonymous4:44 PM

    Dave, you are only a LOT. Which ain't much. Stop bragging because you think you know a lot. You don't.

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  23. Anonymous5:11 PM

    LOT is no different than any other employee who has been stuck at the same job for decades. Fortunately those he works for and with didn't place him in any position of actual authority, why?

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  24. 444= -ZERO i have forgot more that you could ever comprehend.
    You have no clue how important a plow driver is when the fire truck/ambulance/police need help. Zero ask anyone during the ice storm if we were useless not needed or acting like a zero help like you were. I was chosen out of 35 others who applied so you as a zero have no idea of what your trying to talk about.
    The people who read this know me and know it's correct when i say your a "ZERO"
    How does it feel to be that way you know a "ZERO"
    I wouldn't know because i have Credibility,A backbone,respected for what i do even this putting you back in your little place "corner"
    I don't hide i talk to my crew members and have their respect for how i represent them every day. You wouldn't understand that either. That's part of being the ZERO you are having ZERO understanding with fingers.
    SERIOUSLY
    A ZERO you are. Just ask the readers they will tell you!

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  25. Anonymous9:16 PM

    David Smart = <0 To justify his value he had to go back to 2008, WOW!!! How much were you getting paid, yup, doing your job. You were not volunteering. I'm so sick of government workers wanting praise for doing what they get paid to do!!!

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  26. Anoymous=< zero if that's possible your the one we are all sure to be able to do it.
    Day after day,over and over,again and again.
    You just can't get past the 2-3 sentences either. WOW bone head unlimited.
    Stay on the toilet you no body with nothing to offer.
    oshkosh what a laugh that one was.
    LMAO
    2 funny
    seriously
    A "ZERO" you are. Just ask the readers they will tell you!

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  27. Anonymous7:49 PM

    Spelling Dave!!!! Grammar Dave.................. Dave <0. This blog has readers unlike yours........lmaorotf

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  28. 444= -ZERO i have forgot more that you could ever comprehend.
    You have no clue how important a plow driver is when the fire truck/ambulance/police need help. Zero ask anyone during the ice storm if we were useless not needed or acting like a zero help like you were. I was chosen out of 35 others who applied so you as a zero have no idea of what your trying to talk about.
    The people who read this know me and know it's correct when i say your a "ZERO"
    How does it feel to be that way you know a "ZERO"
    I wouldn't know because i have Credibility,A backbone,respected for what i do even this putting you back in your little place "corner"
    "I don't hide" i talk to my crew members and have their respect for how i represent them every day. You wouldn't understand that either. That's part of being the ZERO you are having ZERO understanding with fingers.
    SERIOUSLY
    A ZERO you are. Just ask the readers they will tell you!
    why don't you ask.
    Mr. ZERO are you stuck to the wood seat in the outhouse?
    HE HE HE

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  29. How would lil been it know anything about sand use anyway. He just drives straight and has to follow the leader big bro till they stop and turn around over and over again and again.
    He's good at that till he stops to think and then well look at the rest of things he does like this post.
    He doesn't know the facts about Templeton's costs for sand even.
    Advisor
    "I think not"
    SERIOUSLY JEFF?

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  30. If you still need a plunger in your out house you prove my point
    LMAO
    2 funny
    seriously!!!
    he he he

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  31. Anonymous11:47 AM

    LOT Dave comes to post his bullshit nonsense here because he gets no attention on the blog started by Pauly. It's incoherent. Jeff, on the other hand, posts clearly written entries.

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  32. Poor guy all day and no results.
    Zero all day long without ability to flush must smell bad in the trailer.
    Have her knock the pile over or dig the new hole soon.
    LMAO
    2 funny
    seriously
    1147 -223- your a nothing like your name.
    Over and over time and time again and again.
    Get it zero?
    lol

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  33. osh kosh what a joke
    like the sand all talk and no advise.
    No airports or money to buy anything.
    Remember????
    Money???
    LIS

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  34. david smart7:51 PM

    Getting shorter as the finger gets tired.
    All day Zero needs a break.
    To bad he didn't have a union they stick up for workers rights and labor laws.
    Something this ZREO 219 is against.
    He says he is the top scale white collar and has shit all over his face now and has a problem with that.
    Lackluster explanations reduced to a name calling twerp just like the old H+P.
    Just no backbone or any credibility to be able to look in the mirror.
    LMAO
    2 funny
    seriously
    What a ZERO’S blog

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